So Does This Mean Stan Will Give Me A Refund?
I heard this quote coming in, and Barry helpfully transcribes it:
Just when I was starting to feel sympathy for Manny's stomach lining...
Related news, Felipe has won his second base job back, which is a good thing. He's got a higher upside offensively than Belliard. And if early signs are indication, he'll have better range than Belliard, who's looked immobile at times over there. (His range factor and out-of-zone plays made (Zero!) are basically identical to the ancient Jeff Kent, who was never regarded as a defensive whiz back before he turned 50.)
And you've undoubtedly seen the news about Cordero. Clicking in the shoulder is never a good sign: torn or tearing labrum, perhaps? Either way, the course of action is probably going to be him getting shut down for 4-6 weeks. They'll certainly try rest regardless of diagnosis.
Edit: Those last two sentences are why you should never ever ever ever listen to a goddamn thing I write!
[W]e want to win every single night," Manager Manny Acta said. "But with the plan we have here, and what we're trying to accomplish here, an outing by this young man like that is worth three or four of those losses.
Just when I was starting to feel sympathy for Manny's stomach lining...
posted by Chris Needham at
8:50 AM
26 Comments:
Wow. Just when things were starting to click for Cordero, too. Bummer.
By
Bote Man, at 4/23/2008 9:23 AM
Well damn, if Redding can toss a perfect game tonight, the Nats have almost broken even for the season for Manny.
By
Harper, at 4/23/2008 9:38 AM
Manny's comment that "an outing ... like this is worth three or four of those losses" is quite telling, and quite at odds with management's view. If we're to interpret what Manny is saying as "This season is shot, let's go with the kids," it's quite at odds with JimBo signing the likes of Aaron Boone (forget Bret), Oh-for-Mackowiak, Lenny "I'm glad to contribute" Harris, PLoD and other one-year wonders. If Manny really believes this, call up Kid Flores and the rest of the Kid Pitchers at Columbus, throw them into the fire and let's end this charade that this somehow is anything close to being even a .500 team.
As for Chad, it's over, done, kaput, fini, check please. His arm is shot. Having been the first on this post to predict (accurately, one year ago), that Patterson's arm was dead, I feel I have some credibility in this area.
Shoulda traded him to Boston when you could have, Mr. Leather Pants.
By
Friend of STAN, at 4/23/2008 9:50 AM
writing this season off, and calling up all of the kids now are two different questions, in my opinion. I think we should put all of the kids in Columbus and let them get better together, then bring them up when we have a chance to win with them. Piecemealing them to the bigs won't help (look at the Rays). Holding them back until we can get solid production in the years of low salaries is the key (look at Alex Gordon).
By
Natsfan74, at 4/23/2008 10:33 AM
Stan-
I think if was up to Manny he would have Flores as an everyday catcher. I thought it had already been established that keeping him in Columbus was a financial/contractual decision, nothing more.
As far as the 'Kid' pitchers; aren't most of 'em already here? We had one good draft year, but don't buy into JimBo/Kasten's bullshit when they try to make it seem that they miraculously flooded our farm system with tons of can't miss prospects.
I think the truth is we're closer to average, depth-wise.
By
Rob B, at 4/23/2008 10:52 AM
Flores not being the everyday catcher isn't a money issue -- he would cost a lot less than either PLod or Estrada. It's more a timing and development issue. I agree with Chris on this one -- give me 4 more years where the club owns his rights and can actually use his talents towards winning games, rather than watching him get closer to free agency on bad teams. We want to win with him, not get ready to win and then see him become a free agent.
By
Natsfan74, at 4/23/2008 11:13 AM
Well, I guess we can start lusting over the top picks in next year's draft, anyway.
At least if there's any consolation, this team's epic fail seems to have taken even the front office by surprise. Although this probably raises questions about their true ability to evaluate talent, at least it seems pretty clear (given the panic to bring back Pena and Cordero) that the team was not intentionally being disingenuous in its promise of improved offense. I guess it's better to be incompetent than dishonest.
By
Michael Taylor, at 4/23/2008 11:16 AM
Referring to this season as an "epic fail" when the team has a 6-15 record makes as much sense as referring to last season as an "epic fail" would have made when the record was 9-25. In both cases, there's a lot of season left to be played and, just as they did last year, things could change. At this point, the only way this season could be called an epic fail would be if the expectation was that the team would have won the World Series - which it wasn't. Right now, it's too early to call this season either a failure or a success. There's a lot of baseball yet to be played, and my expectation is that the rest of it will be far, far better than what we have seen to date. (Although probably not any better than last night was...)
By
An Briosca Mor, at 4/23/2008 11:31 AM
NatsFan-
I guess I should clarify; by 'financial' I was sort of thinking that it would be cheaper to get him signed long-term if he hasn't had as much playing time at the MLB level. This was stupid thinking on my part because I forgot about the Zimmerman extension issue that reflects the whole hypocritical attitude of our fearless leaders.
"You're the face of the franchise, the future, next Ripken.......but we still don't want to commit to you financially"
By
Rob B, at 4/23/2008 11:36 AM
ABM-
optimism from you?
pass us the bong, please!
By
Rob B, at 4/23/2008 11:39 AM
Not to change subjects too much on the feel good story of the day, but the Reds fired their GM, Wayne Krivsky. The ESPN story says his biggest mistake was trading Kearns and Lopez to the Nationals.
I wonder if the ESPN story on Bowden getting fired will say his biggest mistake was trading for Lopez.....
By
Natsfan74, at 4/23/2008 11:58 AM
ABM,
For once I think I may agree with you.
By
OleShu, at 4/23/2008 11:58 AM
Why oh why aren't WE hiring Walt Jocketty? Has there been a better GM in all baseball in the last 15 years?
By
Steven Biel, at 4/23/2008 12:39 PM
Yes.
By
Chris Needham, at 4/23/2008 12:39 PM
Well, actually, maybe we should be calling Krivsky now.
But Chris what part of 7 playoff appearances, 2 WS appearances, and 1 championship in 13 years do you not like? He inherited a team that had 7 straight losing seasons and posts 9 winning years out of 13? He gets fired after his first losing year in 7 years, and look where they are now?
And in a small market? Geez, tough crowd.
By
Steven Biel, at 4/23/2008 12:52 PM
He's got a good track record. But he also had a very strong support system behind him.
If the Nats are going to make a change, I'm all for Rizzo.
By
Chris Needham, at 4/23/2008 12:53 PM
Fair enough. I definitely don't know enough to have an opinion on Rizzo, but it seems like a no-brainer that Jocketty would have been a huge upgrade over Bowden.
By
Steven Biel, at 4/23/2008 12:58 PM
--ABM,
I would note that I certainly have not written the season off. I know it's early and there is cause for optimism. However, to characterize what we've seen this past month as anything less than "epic fail" would be a compliment. It's an epic fail that almost certainly bodes to improve, of course, given regression to the mean, etc, but nonetheless, this is just about as bad as it gets.
Furthermore, some components (Cordero, for instance) aren't coming back this season, while others are regressing towards the mean (Belliard) after peak years last year. This team certainly has the pieces to play .500 ball the rest of the way, just like last year's but expecting a any improvement over last season is probably unrealistic.
Pena, for instance, was not only rushed back, but will feel the lingering effects of his oblique injury for perhaps as much as a few months. For a guy who lives and dies by his power, that's a big problem.
By
Michael Taylor, at 4/23/2008 1:09 PM
"Torn labrum?"... Sounds like more of a torn vagina -to me
By
Anonymous, at 4/23/2008 2:36 PM
Svrluga said on his chat today that Bowden stands tall with Mark Lerner and likely will be around for a long time. Not exactly news (read Don Sutton as well). So forget speculating about possible replacements for GM. It ain't going to happen.
What's more interesting to me is the obvious interest the Mets' ownership/management is showing in Acta, confirmed again today by Svrluga. It would not be surprising if the Nats in the not-so-distant future found they had to find a replacement for Acta after New York comes a callin'.
We won't know what this ownership/management group can deliver for another five years or so.
Count me among the pessmists, that is, I doubt very much that in the fall of 2013 the Nats will be driving toward a pennant. Time will tell.
In the meantime, we can enjoy seeing the major league teams that come to town--and that includes all of the NL East, save our own boys of course.
By
JohnR(VA), at 4/23/2008 5:37 PM
I'd be curious to see how long Bowden is in 'tall standing' with the Lerners when it's August and the stadium is still half-full. Barring a huge turnaround, there's going to be a lot of tickets that don't get sold this year.
Lots of people are nice until you start talking dollar signs and bottom lines.
By
Rob B, at 4/23/2008 6:01 PM
Fercrissake, hasn't this team learned it's lesson? FLop still sucks, despite a .270 "HOT STREAK" and you sure as hell don't bat him LEADOFF. Nice outing tonight ... O fer 4 with K's and GIDP's aplenty the last few games. He will have to play himself out of the lineup???!!!??! WHY? I would say he is just about there. Belliard HAS A BETTER UPSIDE. LOOK AT THE STATS FOR THE PAST 2 YEARS CHRIS!!! WAKE UP!!! This is Manny grasping at straws and trying to be convincing doing it.
By
Anonymous, at 4/23/2008 9:29 PM
What's disappointing about tonight is that Santana has got through 7 innings in less than 100 pitches. Seriously, where is the patience? It's a mystery to me, but hey, I AM NOT THE HITTING COACH.
By
Gus, at 4/23/2008 9:40 PM
I was at the game tonight-a few observations:
1) I saw more people wearing Red Sox crap tonight than i have ever seen at any other MLB game, short of Fenway Park. It has gotten ridiculous. The Red Sox have apparently become the de-facto favorite team of the teenage future sorority girls, and as the teenage girls go, so goes the nation apparently (the Sox also have managed to corner the douchebag market as well, but that's not news). I honestly want to throw beer at people i see in an NL STADIUM, watching two NL TEAMS play each other, and i just might if this season gets much worse.
2) Absolutely ZERO energy at the stadium tonight, and the energy there was, came from the Mets fans, who even seemed pretty tame. It was so dull and quiet, even with a good sized crowd, that i was becoming bored, and i love baseball. I don't think i can bring myself to attend any more of these games when the Nats play teams with big fanbases, because the fans from those teams always outnumber Nats fans, and the Nats might as well be a road team. People spend the whole time at these games talking on their cellphones, talking incessantly to their friends next to them or walking around.
It's sad to say, but that Nats these days may very well be the uncoolest team in baseball. Do love that stadium though, even more so the 2nd time around.
By
NatsVA, at 4/23/2008 11:47 PM
情趣用品,情趣用品,情趣用品,情趣用品,情趣用品,情趣用品,情趣用品,情趣用品,情趣,情趣,情趣,情趣,情趣,情趣,情趣,情趣,A片,視訊聊天室,聊天室,視訊,視訊聊天室,080苗栗人聊天室,上班族聊天室,成人聊天室,中部人聊天室,一夜情聊天室,情色聊天室,視訊交友網a片,a片
免費A片,AV女優,美女視訊,情色交友,免費AV,色情網站,辣妹視訊,美女交友,色情影片,成人影片,成人網站,A片,H漫,18成人,成人圖片,成人漫畫,情色網,日本A片,免費A片下載,性愛
A片,色情,成人,做愛,情色文學,A片下載,色情遊戲,色情影片,色情聊天室,情色電影,免費視訊,免費視訊聊天,免費視訊聊天室,一葉情貼圖片區,情色,情色視訊,免費成人影片,視訊交友,視訊聊天,視訊聊天室,言情小說,愛情小說,AIO,AV片,A漫,avdvd,聊天室,自拍,情色論壇,視訊美女,AV成人網,色情A片,SEX,成人論壇
情趣用品,A片,免費A片,AV女優,美女視訊,情色交友,色情網站,免費AV,辣妹視訊,美女交友,色情影片,成人網站,H漫,18成人,成人圖片,成人漫畫,成人影片,情色網
情趣用品,A片,免費A片,日本A片,A片下載,線上A片,成人電影,嘟嘟成人網,成人,成人貼圖,成人交友,成人圖片,18成人,成人小說,成人圖片區,微風成人區,成人文章,成人影城,情色,情色貼圖,色情聊天室,情色視訊,情色文學,色情小說,情色小說,臺灣情色網,色情,情色電影,色情遊戲,嘟嘟情人色網,麗的色遊戲,情色論壇,色情網站,一葉情貼圖片區,做愛,性愛,美女視訊,辣妹視訊,視訊聊天室,視訊交友網,免費視訊聊天,美女交友,做愛影片
av,情趣用品,a片,成人電影,微風成人,嘟嘟成人網,成人,成人貼圖,成人交友,成人圖片,18成人,成人小說,成人圖片區,成人文章,成人影城,愛情公寓,情色,情色貼圖,色情聊天室,情色視訊,情色文學,色情小說,情色小說,色情,寄情築園小遊戲,情色電影,aio,av女優,AV,免費A片,日本a片,美女視訊,辣妹視訊,聊天室,美女交友,成人光碟
情趣用品.A片,情色,情色貼圖,色情聊天室,情色視訊,情色文學,色情小說,情色小說,色情,寄情築園小遊戲,情色電影,色情遊戲,色情網站,聊天室,ut聊天室,豆豆聊天室,美女視訊,辣妹視訊,視訊聊天室,視訊交友網,免費視訊聊天,免費A片,日本a片,a片下載,線上a片,av女優,av,成人電影,成人,成人貼圖,成人交友,成人圖片,18成人,成人小說,成人圖片區,成人文章,成人影城,成人網站,自拍,尋夢園聊天室
By
sexy, at 12/27/2008 3:18 AM
情趣用品,情趣用品,情趣用品,情趣用品,情趣用品,情趣用品,情趣用品,情趣用品,情趣用品,情趣用品,情趣用品,情趣用品,情趣用品,情趣用品,情趣用品,情趣用品,情趣用品,情趣用品,情趣用品,情趣用品,情趣用品,情趣用品,情趣用品,情趣用品,情趣用品,情趣用品,情趣用品,情趣用品,情趣用品,情趣用品,情趣用品,情趣用品,情趣用品,情趣用品,情趣用品,情趣用品,情趣用品,情趣用品,情趣用品,情趣用品,情趣用品,情趣,情趣,情趣,情趣,情趣,情趣,情趣,情趣,情趣,情趣,情趣,情趣,情趣,情趣,情趣,情趣,情趣,情趣,情趣,情趣,情趣,情趣,情趣,情趣,情趣,情趣,情趣,情趣,情趣,情趣,情趣,情趣,情趣,情趣,情趣,情趣,情趣,情趣,情趣,情趣,情趣,美國aneros,rudeboy,英國rudeboy,英國Rocksoff,德國Fun Factory,Fun Factory,英國甜筒造型按摩座,甜筒造型按摩座,英國Rock Chic ,瑞典 Lelo ,英國Emotional Bliss,英國 E.B,荷蘭 Natural Contours,荷蘭 N C,美國 OhMiBod,美國 OMB,Naughti Nano ,音樂按摩棒,ipod按摩棒,美國 The Screaming O,美國TSO,美國TOPCO,美國Doc Johnson,美國CA Exotic,美國CEN,美國Nasstoy,美國Tonguejoy,英國Je Joue,美國Pipe Dream,美國California Exotic,美國NassToys,美國Vibropod,美國Penthouse,仿真按摩棒,矽膠按摩棒,猛男倒模,真人倒模,仿真倒模,PJUR,Zestra,適趣液,穿戴套具,日本NPG,雙頭龍,FANCARNAL,日本NIPPORI,日本GEL,日本Aqua Style,美國WET,費洛蒙,費洛蒙香水,仿真名器,av女優,打炮,做愛,性愛,口交,吹喇叭,肛交,魔女訓練大師,無線跳蛋,有線跳蛋,震動棒,震動保險套,震動套,TOY-情趣用品,情趣用品網,情趣購物網,成人用品網,情趣用品討論,成人購物網,鎖精套,鎖精環,持久環,持久套,拉珠,逼真按摩棒,名器,超名器,逼真老二,電動自慰,自慰,打手槍,仿真女郎,SM道具,SM,性感內褲,仿真按摩棒,pornograph,hunter系列,h動畫,成人動畫,成人卡通,情色動畫,情色卡通,色情動畫,色情卡通,無修正,禁斷,人妻,極悪調教,姦淫,近親相姦,顏射,盜攝,偷拍,本土自拍,素人自拍,公園露出,街道露出,野外露出,誘姦,迷姦,輪姦,凌辱,痴漢,痴女,素人娘,中出,巨乳,調教,潮吹,av,a片,成人影片,成人影音,線上影片,成人光碟,成人無碼,成人dvd,情色影音,情色影片,情色dvd,情色光碟,航空版,薄碼,色情dvd,色情影音,色情光碟,線上A片,免費A片,A片下載,成人電影,色情電影,TOKYO HOT,SKY ANGEL,一本道,SOD,S1,ALICE JAPAN,皇冠系列,老虎系列,東京熱,亞熱,武士系列,新潮館,情趣用品,情趣,情趣商品,情趣網站,跳蛋,按摩棒,充氣娃娃,自慰套,G點,性感內衣,情趣內衣,角色扮演,生日禮物,生日精品,自慰,打手槍,潮吹,高潮,後庭,情色論譠,影片下載,遊戲下載,手機鈴聲,音樂下載,開獎號碼,統一發票號碼,夜市,統一發票對獎,保險套,做愛,減肥,美容,瘦身,當舖,軟體下載,汽車,機車,手機,來電答鈴,週年慶,美食,徵信社,網頁設計,網站設計,室內設計,靈異照片,同志,聊天室,運動彩券,大樂透,威力彩,搬家公司,除蟲,偷拍,自拍,無名破解,av女優,小說,民宿,大樂透開獎號碼,大樂透中獎號碼,威力彩開獎號碼,討論區,痴漢,懷孕,美女交友,交友,日本av,日本,機票,香水,股市,股市行情, 股市分析,租房子,成人影片,免費影片,醫學美容,免費算命,算命,姓名配對,姓名學,姓名學免費,遊戲,好玩遊戲,好玩遊戲區,線上遊戲,新遊戲,漫畫,線上漫畫,動畫,成人圖片,桌布,桌布下載,電視節目表,線上電視,線上a片,線上掃毒,線上翻譯,購物車,身分證製造機,身分證產生器,手機,二手車,中古車,法拍屋,歌詞,音樂,音樂網,火車,房屋,情趣用品,情趣,情趣商品,情趣網站,跳蛋,按摩棒,充氣娃娃,自慰套, G點,性感內衣,情趣內衣,角色扮演,生日禮物,精品,禮品,自慰,打手槍,潮吹,高潮,後庭,情色論譠,影片下載,遊戲下載,手機鈴聲,音樂下載,開獎號碼,統一發票,夜市,保險套,做愛,減肥,美容,瘦身,當舖,軟體下載,汽車,機車,手機,來電答鈴,週年慶,美食,徵信社,網頁設計,網站設計,室內設計,靈異照片,同志,聊天室,運動彩券,,大樂透,威力彩,搬家公司,除蟲,偷拍,自拍,無名破解, av女優,小說,民宿,大樂透開獎號碼,大樂透中獎號碼,威力彩開獎號碼,討論區,痴漢,懷孕,美女交友,交友,日本av ,日本,機票,香水,股市,股市行情,股市分析,租房子,成人影片,免費影片,醫學美容,免費算命,算命,姓名配對,姓名學,姓名學免費,遊戲,好玩遊戲,好玩遊戲區,線上遊戲,新遊戲,漫畫,線上漫畫,動畫,成人圖片,桌布,桌布下載,電視節目表,線上電視,線上a片,線上a片,線上翻譯,購物車,身分證製造機,身分證產生器,手機,二手車,中古車,法拍屋,歌詞,音樂,音樂網,借錢,房屋,街頭籃球,找工作,旅行社,六合彩,水噹噹,台中隆鼻,果凍隆乳,改運整型,自體脂肪移植,新娘造型,婚禮顧問,下川島,常平,常平,珠海,澳門機票,香港機票,貸款,貸款,信用貸款,宜蘭民宿,花蓮民宿,未婚聯誼,網路購物,婚友,婚友社,未婚聯誼,交友,婚友,婚友社,單身聯誼,未婚聯誼,未婚聯誼, 婚友社,婚友,婚友社,單身聯誼,婚友,未婚聯誼,婚友社,未婚聯誼,單身聯誼,單身聯誼,白蟻,白蟻,除蟲,老鼠,減肥,減肥,在家工作,在家工作,水噹噹,台中隆鼻,果凍隆乳,改運整型,自體脂肪移植,新娘造型,婚禮顧問,下川島,常平,常平,珠海,澳門機票,香港機票,貸款,貸款,信用貸款,宜蘭民宿,花蓮民宿,未婚聯誼,網路購物,婚友,婚友社,未婚聯誼,交友,婚友,婚友社,單身聯誼,未婚聯誼,未婚聯誼, 婚友社,婚友,婚友社,單身聯誼,婚友,未婚聯誼,婚友社,未婚聯誼,單身聯誼,單身聯誼,白蟻,白蟻,除蟲,老鼠,減肥,減肥,在家工作,在家工作,婚友,單身聯誼,未婚聯誼,婚友,交友,交友,婚友社,婚友社,婚友社,大陸新娘,大陸新娘,越南新娘,越南新娘,外籍新娘,外籍新娘,台中坐月子中心,搬家公司,搬家公司,中和搬家,台北搬家,板橋搬家,新店搬家,線上客服,網頁設計,線上客服,網頁設計,植牙,關鍵字,關鍵字,seo,seo,網路排名,自然排序,網路排名軟體,交友,越南新娘,婚友社,外籍新娘,大陸新娘,越南新娘,交友,外籍新娘,視訊聊天,大陸新娘,婚友社,婚友,越南新娘,大陸新娘,越南新娘,視訊交友,外籍新娘,網路排名,網路排名軟體,網站排名優化大師,關鍵字排名大師,網站排名seo大師,關鍵字行銷專家,關鍵字,seo,關鍵字行銷,網頁排序,網頁排名,關鍵字大師,seo大,自然排名,網站排序,網路行銷創業,汽車借款,汽車借錢,汽車貸款,汽車貸款,拉皮,抽脂,近視雷射,隆乳,隆鼻,變性,雙眼皮,眼袋,牙齒,下巴,植牙,人工植牙,植髮,雷射美容,膠原蛋白,皮膚科,醫學美容,玻尿酸,肉毒桿菌,微晶瓷,電波拉皮,脈衝光,關鍵字,關鍵字,seo,seo,網路排名,自然排序,網路排名軟體,英語演講,托福,Toastmaster,汽車借款,汽車借款,汽車借款,汽車貸款,汽車貸款,借錢,借貸,當舖,借款,借貸,借錢,週轉,
By
信次, at 2/13/2009 6:05 AM
Post a Comment
<< Home