Friday, November 09, 2007

Mets Fans On Carpenter

MetsBlog was kind (evil?) enough to link to my Carpenter graph from yesterday, which elicited a number of comments on their site. Just thought I'd pass along how those troglodytes view our man:

-- This guy is a DISASTER in the booth.

-- The Nationals broadcast, and especially because of this Carpenter dude, is hands down, without a doubt THE WORST in Major League Baseball

-- Get ready for another season of unmitigated praise for the baseball talents of Nook Logan and D’Angelo Jimenez! [ed: And Lenny Harris!]

-- Ugh. Seriously, this guy is insufferable. I can’t stand him 19 times a year, plus the few times I try to watch the Nats against other teams. Hands downs, he is the worst play-by-play guy in the game.

-- What the heck does Carpenter have to be excited about?!?! He never questions anything the team or manager does.
Down 10 runs in the 8th, God forbid a Nat hits a double. We’ll never here the end of “anything is possible folks” or “don’t go anywhere fans, it’s not over yet”. A joke!!!

  • And my personal favorite:

    -- carpenter was also one of the mets tv broadcasters during the 1992-3 season. i guess the worst team money can buy was not limited to the guys on the field that year.


    • once mets fans can read anything above the first grade level, they'll figure out that the nats weren't even the worst team in their division this year.

      By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11/09/2007 10:41 AM  

    • Seriously, Bob is not THAT bad. Listen to any smarmy Giants broadcast, "folksy" Astros or Mariners game, or boring Braves broadcast and it's clear that although Carpenter is not ideal, he's not the worst.


      By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11/09/2007 10:46 AM  

    • That's a great slogan for next year: "MASN: There are a few worse!"

      (I like the Giants broadcasts a lot)

      I realize that much of they STYLE is a personal thing. I really don't like Carpenter's style. But what pushes him over the edge is his inaccuracies and inability to do the mechanics of calling a game properly -- the anticipated double plays, his inability to gauge flyballs even after 2 years, etc.

      By Blogger Chris Needham, at 11/09/2007 10:47 AM  

    • The Giants TV guys are quite good. Of course, part of their job has been hyping up Bonds, but Kiper and Krukow are excellent.

      By Blogger Rocket1124, at 11/09/2007 10:49 AM  

    • So you like Carpenter? Or not? I'm confused...;)

      By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11/09/2007 10:51 AM  

    • Don't make me make another graph! ;)

      By Blogger Chris Needham, at 11/09/2007 10:51 AM  

    • Chris,

      Did Carpenter hit on your girlfriend or something?

      He's not god's gift to baseball play-by-play, but he's not William Hong either. The guy has been in the game for a long time, he understands the game and has a good voice. Granted he makes errors now and then, but when you broadcast 162 games, that will happen.

      Realize that taste for announcers is as subjective as it gets, but it seems that the criticism of Carpenter is a little over-the-top.


      By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11/09/2007 11:01 AM  

    • If you ignore the bleatings around the margins, I don't think the actual criticisms (the constructive ones) I have of Carpenter are over-the-top.

      Yeah, I take things too far, but, whatever.

      By Blogger Chris Needham, at 11/09/2007 11:05 AM  

    • With all due respect, Carpenter makes errors all the time ... "There's a double play ball - oops!" "See! You! Lay-uh, caught at the track" [Watch the outfielder, Bob]. He's not the worst out there but I'd say he's closer to the bottom than the top.

      My reaction is neither delight nor outrage - just a resigned shrug. As they say on the Internets - meh.

      By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11/09/2007 11:10 AM  

    • Why not get Phil Wood on the broadcast team in some way? Post game shows, mid-game reports, fill-ins for Carpenter and Sutton, and hopefully more when openings pop up in the future? Phil is a knowledgeable baseball guy who studies the game, and he is local.

      By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11/09/2007 11:15 AM  

    • I've never been a huge Phil Wood fan, but, yeah, it'd make sense to get him involved somehow, even if only on the pre/post-game shows.

      By Blogger Chris Needham, at 11/09/2007 11:17 AM  

    • You mean to tell us teams don't squeeze with two outs? You mean to tell us Hanrahan walking another better wasn't a good thing even though it set up a righty vs. righty matchup? You mean to tell us the Dodgers won't benefit from having respected veteran Shea Hillenbrand on their roster?

      By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11/09/2007 12:05 PM  

    • ...hands down, without a doubt THE WORST in Major League Baseball...

      Seriously? The absolute worst? The Mets generally have good broadcasters (Keith Hernandez is a schmuck, but we knew that), so their fans are spoiled (we knew this, too). But MASN as the worst?

      Try and stay awake for a Pirates game on TV (despite Bob Walk's best efforts to put you to sleep...the man could tranquilize a meth head). Try to pretend that the "Circle me, Bert" (Blyleven, Twins broadcasts) gag is anything but mind-numbingly lame. Jim Hunter and Buck (I'm not drunk, I just sound that way) Martinez (Orioles), anyone?

      Carpenter is lousy, for sure, but Sutton is quite good (a decent guy in person, too), and that has to mitigate something.

      MASN could've done far better for the Nats, but "there are a few worse," indeed.

      Stupid Mets fans.

      By Blogger Ben, at 11/09/2007 1:19 PM  

    • The "nice guy" comments are the most damning to me. The Nats need to build a fan base and put some fannies in the seats. If the team is going to choose a slow homer of a play-by-play man, then they should at least get somebody with some personality. Look at Harry Caray in his second career with the Cubs. Confused as all get-out but he helped bring fans to the ball park.

      By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11/09/2007 2:17 PM  

    • I lol'ed at the guy who said, "I always feel like I’m watching a golf game when I watch their broadcast."

      That's so close to being true except for Carpenter predicting 25 out of the next 15 double plays.

      By Blogger Michael Taylor, at 11/09/2007 8:41 PM  

    • The level of controversy says it all about Carpenter. We argue about whether he's accurate. We don't even reach the threshold of whether he's interesting. How many Carpy supporters can say they learned anything from him? He's a mediocrity. Not so annoying that I turn him off but he adds nothing of interest to the broadcast. Yes, we could probably do worse (MASN corporate motto). The Nats' shabby treatment of him earned him sympathy points for his dignity and professionalism, but those traits are entry-level requirements for jobs at his level, not extras.

      By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11/10/2007 9:52 AM  

    • Oh come on...Chris you like the Mets blog on your blog because they said you were "hysterical."

      Aside from that, who cares what Met fans think? They like the Mets. (nice October METS!)

      Carpetner is a very good broadcaster - you can say I'm no baseball expert - I'll give you that.

      But, even with an unlimited budget like Fox has, nobody seems to be doing all that great....Joe Buck and Tim McCarver?

      I like Joe Buck because he reminds me of the kid that used to get beat up in school when the Tim McCarvers of the world got tired of beating me up.

      But how much does even he really know about the game?

      Bottom line, welcome back Bob!

      By Blogger Ray Firsching, at 11/12/2007 11:22 AM  

    • Carpernter is a play-by-play man. He's int he booth to call the action on the field not judge the team and manager. That's the job of the color analyst who is Don Sutton. I'd expect Mets fans to know the difference but I guess they really are morons afterall.

      By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11/14/2007 4:40 PM  

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