Second Verse, Same As The First
Remember a few months back when Ken Rosenthal wrote a long story detailing some of the stupid things the team was doing organizationally, especially in how it treated personnel? Remember how they said that that would be fixed? Consider this.
Not a huge deal in and of itself, but it seems like it's part of a pattern. The Nats lost a few minor league coaches (perhaps intentionally) over the last few years doing the same. Eh, whatever.
The more important news from that is that the Nats are interested in acquiring Tom Glavine or Livan Hernandez.
I'd peg both of 'em at about the same level, capable of being a #4 at this stage in their careers.
I've always loved the way that Livan pitched, especially with that big balloon curve (well, and gut). And it'd be nice to have a pitcher who can hit! But I imagine that someone's going to give him 3 years, and I'm not sure I'd want to commit to him that long given his slow decline and his blogger-type physique. If he'd come at one or two year, I could get behind it.
I used to follow the Braves when I was younger, back when they were on TV every night. I always loved watching Maddux and Smoltz pitch, but never Glavine. I dunno. Just something about his style, even as he's been effective more often than not. But he'll be 42. His ERA has risen three straight years, and his ERA was below league average for a starter last year. He doesn't miss ANY bats. But he's still capable of a quality start -- 23 of 34 starts last year. (The 34 is probably his most impressive number; he takes the ball every 5th day, unlike most of our sad sacks.)
If Livan wants a three-year deal, I take Glavine. If Livan only wants 2, maybe I lean in his direction. Of course what other teams decide to do is going to impact the whole thing a lot.
Article sez that Bowden's also interested in Rocco Baldelli, who's basically a spare outfielder for the Rays at this point. That's a classic Bowden move -- taking a chance on someone that a team's about to give up on. Rocco's got a TON of potential, but he's also on the Nick Johnson Catastrophic Injury Insurance Program. I could definitely get behind that move.
Jose Cardenal, Bowden's special advisor, said he didn't receive his contract for 2008 in the mail. Cardenal's 2007 contract expired on Oct. 31. Cardenal said he is now a free agent. He said he has been trying to reach Bowden the last few weeks, but the latter didn't return his calls.
"Somebody should have called me and told me that my contract was not renewed," Cardenal said.
But in an e-mail, Bowden said "not true," when referring to Cardenal's contract not being renewed.
Cardenal was more than an advisor. He often traveled around Minor League cities to teach the Nationals players the art of baserunning and playing the outfield. Cardenal spent the last two weeks of the season teaching Justin Maxwell how to play the outfield the right way.
Not a huge deal in and of itself, but it seems like it's part of a pattern. The Nats lost a few minor league coaches (perhaps intentionally) over the last few years doing the same. Eh, whatever.
I'd peg both of 'em at about the same level, capable of being a #4 at this stage in their careers.
I've always loved the way that Livan pitched, especially with that big balloon curve (well, and gut). And it'd be nice to have a pitcher who can hit! But I imagine that someone's going to give him 3 years, and I'm not sure I'd want to commit to him that long given his slow decline and his blogger-type physique. If he'd come at one or two year, I could get behind it.
I used to follow the Braves when I was younger, back when they were on TV every night. I always loved watching Maddux and Smoltz pitch, but never Glavine. I dunno. Just something about his style, even as he's been effective more often than not. But he'll be 42. His ERA has risen three straight years, and his ERA was below league average for a starter last year. He doesn't miss ANY bats. But he's still capable of a quality start -- 23 of 34 starts last year. (The 34 is probably his most impressive number; he takes the ball every 5th day, unlike most of our sad sacks.)
If Livan wants a three-year deal, I take Glavine. If Livan only wants 2, maybe I lean in his direction. Of course what other teams decide to do is going to impact the whole thing a lot.
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By Carl, at 11/06/2007 9:42 AM
Signing Tom Glavine seems like a cynical marketing move designed to excite the fans so they buy tickets-- until fans realize later in the year that Glavine just isn't the same pitcher he was.
Would rather take a chance on two or three younger guys, even those coming off injuries (with a club option for the next season), hoping that one or two of them can do as well as Glavine.
By Anonymous, at 11/06/2007 10:58 AM
nobody, including his friends and family members, is buying a ticket to see tom glavine pitch. if this is actually a "marketing move" the entire marketing dept should be shipped to bellevue ASAP!
baldelli is very intriguing but it's hard to see the nats getting better by picking up guys who can't stick in the d-rays lineup.
By DCPowerGator, at 11/06/2007 12:50 PM
Getting Baldelli could be the beginning of an injury-trifecta - with Clement and Benson following. With that the Nats could have 2/5 of the starting rotation plus 3/8 of their everyday players (Johnson and Gooze) on the may-never-play-again-after-the-next-pitch list.
By Anonymous, at 11/06/2007 1:10 PM
OK, signing Tom Glavine may not be a marketing move. But it is an attempt to demonstrate to your fan base that by spending ten million on a star pitcher, when added to the dramatic Dmitri Young signing, the Nats are committed to putting an interesting product on the field. That may or may not relate to ticket sales, although I think it clearly does.
However, it is not the same as building a winner. I hope the Nats go for guys with more upside potential than Glavine or Young, who are struggling to hold on to their reputations as valuable known commodities. But what is their upside?
To me, this means go after the young guys. Balldeli is 26--great. Clement and Benson are moving past their primes (and I would prefer to see younger guys signed) but at least they are eight years younger than Glavine.
By Anonymous, at 11/06/2007 1:55 PM
Maybe the same people in the Nat's front office who mail out the season tickets also were supposed to mail out Cardenal's new contract.
By logan, at 11/06/2007 7:53 PM
Sign Livan for the following reasons:
1. He'd be the third- or fourth-best hitter on the team.
2. Good for the local economy, especially the Tex-Mex joints.
3. He's odds-on to give up the longest home run in Nationals Park history.
4. Glavine? We already have a soft-tossing southpaw, and Matt Chico is 21 years younger.
By Anonymous, at 11/06/2007 9:08 PM
Interestingly, Farid actually had a post speculating about the possibility of the Nats going for Baldelli a couple weeks ago and concluded that even if he wasn't injured, he wouldn't really be an upgrade over Church.
http://tbwb.blogspot.com/2007/10/baldelli-will-be-available-will-bowden.html
By cass, at 11/07/2007 7:27 AM
Of course Livan, Glavine, Cameron, etc. are interested in the Nats-their interested in any team who will lavish large sums of money on them! Kasten won't spend that kind of money on one player.
But the Baldelli idea is the type of "high rish-high return" deal that Bowden likes if they can re-do his contract which has to be renewed for large $$$ prior to the start of the 2008 season or he becomes a free agent after 2008. For a guy that only played in 52% of the games for the past 3 years, that contract renewal is a big gamble and the reason that the Rays would like to trade him.
By Anonymous, at 11/07/2007 8:01 AM
Of course, Baldelli has yet to say Jews go to hell, which probably didn't play well with the observant Jewish ownership...
I'm with Chris Needham on Glavine, he's too old and he's going elsewhere anyway, I'd like Livan and Jennings pitching for the Nats next season and I reckon they're well worth the $$$, given Lord Randy of St Claire's ability to get the most from least.
Is Johnson coming back at 1B or has Young entrenched himself there. Doesn't this mean one of them will be traded?
By Anonymous, at 11/07/2007 3:18 PM
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