Thursday, July 26, 2007


Tha Hell?

If it's 2 years, $4 million, it won't be bad. Other than that?

(They want him to play the outfield!?!? Ladson's been the only one talking about that, mostly based on convos he's had with Young. But this attributes it to the team!?)

Tha hell?

For a team that shat itself over outfield defense so much that they ripped Church and settled for Logan!?

Tha Hell?

Stan, I want my deposit back!

Mood: ::agitated::

  • Anonymous from the last post has it right: "And as long as we're talking bringing back fat, aging vets: Livan in '08!"

  • UPDATE: Svrluga says that he hasn't heard anything over 2 years, $4 million (Hey, I pulled that number above out of my ample buttocks!)

    If that's the case, it's not a bad deal, and he'd still be tradeable. We'll have to wait and see.

  • UPDATE: Charlie and Dave supposedly mentioned a 2-year deal with an option for a third. No $$$ mentioned. Anyone hear anything?

  • Svrluga changes his tune... dirty, cheating, thief. He's up to $10-12 million now. ESPN says 2/$10.

    I don't get it.


    • YES! YES! YES!

      By Blogger Bobtimist Prime, at 7/26/2007 11:57 AM  

    • Do we have Calvin and
      Clark Griffith all over again?

      What we got in the old Senators days were guys who became fan favorites here, who could be re-signed for modest amounts, while the good franchises went out and got young superstars that helped them contend.

      You can't hide Young defensively. Young is a good guy, someone who can contribute, scorch the ball in his last one or two prime years, and bring you July prospects, but not much of a building block.

      By Anonymous Ed, at 7/26/2007 12:07 PM  

    • guys, Nick Johnson isn't coming back. it's that simple. that and the fact that there's no one breaking down the door at first in the minors...well someone has to play first next year. if he comes cheap, is a good soldier, and most importantly actually WANTS to be here, bring him back. this team won't be good enough not to need D'Meat (or a reasonable facsimile) until 2010.

      By Blogger Dave, at 7/26/2007 12:45 PM  

    • mabey he will play his fat ass in centerfield just for kicks and mabey when the christan gets injured next year Young will paly some shortstop hell throw him at catcher or when Patterson gets hurt agian throw him at pitcher cant wait for next year.

      By Anonymous Anonymous, at 7/26/2007 12:50 PM  

    • If it's 2 for $4 million, its hard to complain. As Chris stated he is still tradeable, and that's not much more than you would commit to a top bench player which DY would be at a minimum.

      Even if Nick Johnson recovers completely, he won't play more than 100 to 120 games (which is probably optimistic); so, DY will still get plenty of opportunities at 1st over the next two years as the Nats have no 1b prospects on the horizon. Also, DY would be a solid pinch hitter and a DH in inter-league road games.

      Even though I like the deal, I can't take seriously the idea of DY as an OF. He may have played OF when he was younger, but that's like saying Mike Pizza and Craig Biggio caught when they were younger. DY can't not play even a below-average OF right now. DY would have to lose about 40 pounds (probably more) to make OF even a long shot possibility.


      By Anonymous Anonymous, at 7/26/2007 12:50 PM  

    • There's only one explanation: Alyssa Milano paid a midnight visit to Cap'n Leatherpants.

      By Anonymous a different chris, at 7/26/2007 12:54 PM  

    • I will repeat:


      By Anonymous natsfan7, at 7/26/2007 12:59 PM  

    • This is a terrible idea. A glorified DH who is going through a hot streak, doesn't hit with enough power for the position he can barely play, and isn't known for his durability either. Terrible terrible idea. This team has made some questionable decisions, but this one makes me want to cry.

      By Anonymous nationalsreview, at 7/26/2007 1:54 PM  

    • There's a big difference between a terrible idea and a terrible idea that has consequences. This is the former.

      As Dave noted, someone has to play first base next year. Whether Young is worth it or not doesn't change the fact that paying 5-6mil/yr to arguably the best player on your team is not a big investment. Not to mention that most teams wouldn't realize it if 5 mil fell out of their pocket.

      No 1B prospects + no chance to compete with Pujols at first = Dmitri Young.

      By Blogger RPS, at 7/26/2007 2:10 PM  

    • A couple of faults with that logic though.

      That Dmitri is the team's best player is an indictment of the quality of this team. That's a bit unfair in that he's had a solid season, but not tooo unfair. do you expect him to have another career next year? In 2009?

      No, it's not a ton of money, but this is a team that has a ton of holes, none of which this money fills. That's $5 million that could've upgraded LF or CF or adding some dependable innings to the starting rotation.

      It's not that Young is bad. It's just that this doesn't make sense, UNLESS Nick Johnson is 1) traded 2) done. It's too much for a bench player, even if he's a strong ambassador for the community.

      By Blogger Chris Needham, at 7/26/2007 2:18 PM  


      By Anonymous King, at 7/26/2007 2:20 PM  

    • if daryle ward can play OF, why not dameethook?

      seriously, if johnson doesn't come back, problem solved. what were we going to do, re-invite travis lee and AAAA prospect larry "not ready for" broadway? and, if johnson comes back, it means we can stick a fork in church, who demonstrates nightly why every other ML team sees him as a 4th OF.

      in fact, since our OF situation is so pathetic that we only have one starting caliber OF out of four (two of which are completely useless at the plate not to mention kearns barely hanging on to his status as the one legit starter), all this really does is add a proven vet and bat to the OF mix and clubhouse, while buying some valuable insurance at 1B.

      so how is that not a good thing?

      ps - for those who still want to trade him (which includes me), it's a reasonable contract and might make him MORE valuable since he won't be seen as a two month rental. hellooooo AL clubs needing a DH! minnesota, i'm looking in your general direction.

      By Blogger Bill, at 7/26/2007 3:30 PM  

    • Sadly, this is proof that there is no PLANtm.

      What, Dmitri wouldn't sign a 2/12 deal in the off season? Really. Cause teams would be beating down the doors for an overweight 33 year old DH with limited power.

      It's worked out perfectly, you've turned a scrap heap find into a valuable antique. Cash it in before the shine wears off. If Scott Linebrink is worth 3 pitchers, the Nats should get at least one for Dmitri. You never know with pitchers Remember, TINSTAAPP.

      By Anonymous Anonymous, at 7/26/2007 3:35 PM  

    • Instead of throwing up all over ourselves, maybe we should all take a deep breath and analyze the situation.

      No team in the market for talent is willing to make a "rent a player" trade so far this year. A veteran such as Belliard or Dmitri may in fact be MORE tradeable because they have years left on their contracts.

      Nick is always injury prone, and previous numbers comparisons between Nick and Dmitri show that they are fairly similar. Let's not pretend that Nick is a 40+ HR slugger, he's a doubles hitter. As well Dmitri's defense has improved steadily as he's played more and more 1B (remember, it's not his natural position).

      Dmitri is evidently a good clubhouse guy, provides stability and flexibility. He's hitting way better than Kearns, who I don't think is the greatest OF anyways. RF in the new stadium won't be anywhere near as cavernous as in RFK, so Dmitri or Kearns or _fill_in the_blank_ will have less territory to cover.

      But before I get called a Meat Hook apologist, let me be clear that if the deal is over 2/$8 then that is a bad mood regardless of where he plays for us next year. The second drawback is he's no longer a "B" to us, so we only get return value if we trade him

      Now if we trade him to the Twins and get a decent young arm in return, all will be forgiven.

      By Anonymous fa-NATS-ic, at 7/26/2007 3:55 PM  

    • I emailed Stan about this one. Makes NOOOO sense.

      By Anonymous Andrew Stebbins, at 7/26/2007 5:47 PM  

    • This isn't as bad a move as you're making it sound. Fan-nats-ic is right on the money. I have major doubts about Nick Johnson's viability for next year. If he's not there then we now have a cheap 1B until some of these draft picks come through. Seriously, if we let Dmitri walk who will play 1b? So now we could either deal him (hopefully to the stupid Brewers) or keep him for next year. If Johnson comes back healthy next year we cross that bridge when we get to it.

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