I Hate Rumors
Especially this rumor.
Elijah? It is enough! No clue yet... we'll find out soon enough.
I really hope it's not him. I'll defend Milledge to the end, but not that fecking scumbag.
If it is Dukes, does this mean that Milledge is gone, part of a trade for pitching, pitching, pitching?
Wa Po confirms that Dukes is now a National. Joy. Hide your women (or at least make sure they're on the pill) and lock up your children (or at least make sure they're wearing flak jackets)
In retrospect, this seems a tad premature, eh?
WaPo has a bit more... key thing is that it's a PTBNL, which doesn't really mean much, other than that Tampa Bay likely wants to ensure that they have a roster slot open for the upcoming Rule 5 draft. If that's the case, then it would indicate that that's someone currently on the Nats' 40-man roster. I'd be stunned if it were anyone of consequence.
Elijah? It is enough! No clue yet... we'll find out soon enough.
I really hope it's not him. I'll defend Milledge to the end, but not that fecking scumbag.
If it is Dukes, does this mean that Milledge is gone, part of a trade for pitching, pitching, pitching?
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If the Mets were having trouble trading milledge for good pitching, how exactly could we?
Make it Milledge/Cordero or Milledge/Rauch and who is out there and worth that?
Also, Booooo.
By Ironic Goat, at 12/03/2007 3:16 PM
Because maybe the problem wasn't Milledge, but the assorted guys (like Humber) that they were surrounding him.
Package Milledge Cordero and an arm or 2 and you've got something that won't cause other GMs to hang up on you.
By Chris Needham, at 12/03/2007 3:19 PM
I swear if we gave up Cordero, Rauch, or anything else of significant value, i will breath fire at our front office.
Milledge is fine. He's just a kid in need of a bit of direction who was thrown into a pressure cooker a bit too early.
Dukes, on the other hand, is a certified nutcase.
By Anonymous, at 12/03/2007 3:21 PM
Wait don't trade Milledge! I have wanted him on the team for a couple of years. Don't flip him that fast!!
By Positively Half St., at 12/03/2007 3:27 PM
Who wants to bet it's Cordero + Milledge for Dontrelle Willis and Elijah Dukes?
By Michael Taylor, at 12/03/2007 3:28 PM
They won't trade Milledge. He was signed because of his relationship with Acta, who believes he can get the best out of him. Dukes will be on an incentive laden contract that means if he even looks at anyone the wrong way he is gone. No questions, gone!
This is not in any way based on fact, but it instead the source of my comment is me rocking back an forth in my office chair weeping and praying.
By Unknown, at 12/03/2007 3:36 PM
Michael
Dukes and Willis don't play for the same team. Same state, same finishing position, but different teams.
Why? Why oh why?
By Unknown, at 12/03/2007 3:40 PM
Apparently we got him for "a player to be named later" aka, nothing that important.
I think it's a steal, a real low risk deal. The guy is a real nutcase though. But if he keeps his problems at bay and performs on the field, I'll give him a shot.
By Anonymous, at 12/03/2007 3:43 PM
OMG this is frightening.
The article says "for a minor leaguer." Could Jim be dealing from the thin stock of "future" pitchers?
By Anonymous, at 12/03/2007 3:45 PM
Ratt, PTBNL have included players of such caliber as David Ortiz. So what I am saying is, we traded them David Ortiz. Now Jimbo just needs to get David Ortiz.
By Anonymous, at 12/03/2007 3:58 PM
Maybe we can sign Rober Fick again, then send him to the Rays for Charles Manson Dukes. That would be addition by subtraction. Now we know why the Nats signed Dimitri to a two year contract. It wasn't to play ball but to baby sit Dukes and Milledge.
By Anonymous, at 12/03/2007 4:04 PM
Love the move.
The next step must be to pick up Milton Bradley. I don't care that Bradley will miss most of the season.
This move augers well for the DC legal community.
By Anonymous, at 12/03/2007 4:16 PM
If anybody's offloading season tickets on the cheap after this, let me know. I'm buying. One way or another, this is gonna be a very fun squad to watch in the spring.
By MDT, at 12/03/2007 4:23 PM
We're starting to look like the Oakland Raiders of old. Now if we only have their winning records...
By Anonymous, at 12/03/2007 4:26 PM
not to be too optimistic, but dmitri was a scumbag wife beater who has "reformed" to hero status. I think its a good idea to stick the two of them together. if dukes turns out to be as good on the field as he can then I think this was a good move. why was it okay to take a player with character issues on potential when its milledge, but not dukes? i understand the upside is expectations arent as highand the character issues are slightly more offensive (and hilarious) but he is still young and can mature.
By weckstein, at 12/03/2007 4:26 PM
Well, not to completely exonerate Dmitri, but he did find out that he was a diabetic, and that undoubtedly contributed to some of his past behavior. Having seen how diabetics react when their blood sugar is out of whack, getting that under control certainly goes a long way to understanding Dmitri's renaissance. As far as I have heard, Dukes has no such reason for his violent behavior. I really don't want him in a Nat's uniform.
By Anonymous, at 12/03/2007 4:47 PM
facekdr:
The character issues with Dukes are more than a little worse than Milledge's. Dukes threatened to kill his wife on a cell phone voice mail. Dukes impregnated the minor girl that someone in his family was foster-family to. Dukes is a bad, bad man.
By John O'Connor, at 12/03/2007 4:50 PM
According to “Viewfromthebleachers.com”:
Elijah Duke’s father is currently in jail for, according to Tampa police, killing a crack dealer who sold his wife $100 worth of fake crack.
By Anonymous, at 12/03/2007 4:57 PM
Reforming Dimitri is small potatoes compared to this guy. He's just flat out wrong!
Horrible horrible deal.
By Unknown, at 12/03/2007 5:00 PM
Hard to evaluate the trade until we know who the minor league PTBNL is, but I expect that it'll be a name that a lot of people don't want to see go - as bad as Dukes' personal issues are, he's got a high baseball upside, and I expect the DRays wouldn't move him for any less than a good prospect. We can probably rule out anyone on the 40 man roster, and we can also rule out anyone taken in the 2007 draft. But I'd expect the PTBNL to be one of the Nats top 20 prospects - Gibson or Willems wouldn't surprise me.
Scot.
By Unknown, at 12/03/2007 5:14 PM
Nats.com says the PTBNL is Glen Gibson a 4th rounder from '06. One of the bevy of relievers we had in Vermont last year. A 3.10 ERA he had there I think.
By Anonymous, at 12/03/2007 5:25 PM
Gibson is not a huge price to pay for Dukes. Who knows, with a new environment, maybe Dukes will grow up. Is so, the Nats are big winners on this one. Josh Hamilton was a hopeless druggie and he turned his life around and had a very productive season with Cincy.
By Anonymous, at 12/03/2007 5:38 PM
This really makes very little sense to me. I love Dukes, he's got a cannon and the potential to have a great bat. I also get buying very very low. When you pretend you are a small market team like the Nats do, this is the way to get better in a hurry. But it carries such a risk. Hopefully the team is smart enough to give him a one mistake and you're done kind of deal. PS Where in the world is he going to get ABs????
By Anonymous, at 12/03/2007 5:56 PM
Phil Dunn hit it right on the head. This is the baseball deal equivilent of Wily Mo swinging from the heels. We might wiff mightily (losing only a prospect who's a LONG way from the Bigs), or we might hit a huge home run if Dukes can imitate Hamilton in turning his life around.
Here's hoping he does.
By Anonymous, at 12/03/2007 7:33 PM
Dukes is a very dangerous person to have in a clubhouse that is trying to build itself into a winner. Without proven veterans to help keep this clown in line, I fear he will be a cancer - not to mention and embarrassment throughout the rest of the league for his juvenile and criminal antics. Kasten and Bowden are making it increasingly difficult to root for a team that has these types of players (I'm throwing Milledge in there - maybe unfairly, I'm willing to give that kid a shot and the benefit of the doubt).
By Anonymous, at 12/05/2007 5:49 AM
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