One More Thing About The Defense
A poster at Baseball Primer has posted some tweaked defensive ratings that agree with every other defensive metric I looked at the other day: Clayton and Vidro are a disaster. They have Vidro as being 8 runs below average for every 150 games played and Royce Clayton at -11. Those numbers are reasonably in line with the other defensive stats I blogged about earlier this week.
Two more things....
1) Federal Baseball posted a logical explanation for the discrepencay in Alfonso Soriano's and Marlon Byrd's raw range factors when compared to the other defensive stats. The Nats have a pretty extreme flyball pitching staff, which is going to increase the number of chances they have, even if it's not helping increase the RATE at which they actually make plays. Nats pitchers, he uncovered, have allowed around 100 more flyballs than the league average. If 75% of them are caught, that's a lot of extra outs for a fielder for things that aren't really under his control.
2) I was looking for this at the time, but I finally found it: League Fielding Stats. The Nats are dead last in all of MLB in double plays turned, with just 48 (almost half of the Astros).
Sure, some of that is because of the high number of flyballs, but you've gotta think that, with the way the pitching staff and defense stink, that the Nats have had plenty of double play opportunities. It's just that Clayton and Vidro aren't converting them.
Breaking it out further, Vidro is 14th in the NL in double plays. Clayton is 15th. Alfonso Soriano, for what it's worth, has 4.
Their assists total is 26/30 MLB teams, too. Assists come mostly on groundballs and are heavily influenced by the team's middle infielders.
None of those stats by themselves mean a whole heckuva lot. But when you add them up with the ones from my last post, there's absolutely NO evidence that either of them is a good fielder. All evidence points to them costing the team hits, runs, and wins.
Random, but interesting stat: The Nats have allowed the 6th most stolen bases.
Two more things....
1) Federal Baseball posted a logical explanation for the discrepencay in Alfonso Soriano's and Marlon Byrd's raw range factors when compared to the other defensive stats. The Nats have a pretty extreme flyball pitching staff, which is going to increase the number of chances they have, even if it's not helping increase the RATE at which they actually make plays. Nats pitchers, he uncovered, have allowed around 100 more flyballs than the league average. If 75% of them are caught, that's a lot of extra outs for a fielder for things that aren't really under his control.
2) I was looking for this at the time, but I finally found it: League Fielding Stats. The Nats are dead last in all of MLB in double plays turned, with just 48 (almost half of the Astros).
Sure, some of that is because of the high number of flyballs, but you've gotta think that, with the way the pitching staff and defense stink, that the Nats have had plenty of double play opportunities. It's just that Clayton and Vidro aren't converting them.
Breaking it out further, Vidro is 14th in the NL in double plays. Clayton is 15th. Alfonso Soriano, for what it's worth, has 4.
Their assists total is 26/30 MLB teams, too. Assists come mostly on groundballs and are heavily influenced by the team's middle infielders.
None of those stats by themselves mean a whole heckuva lot. But when you add them up with the ones from my last post, there's absolutely NO evidence that either of them is a good fielder. All evidence points to them costing the team hits, runs, and wins.
posted by Chris Needham at
8:48 AM
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"You read things," Robinson said. "You hear things. You see things. You don't hear things. I don't think people think I'm a very good manager, for whatever reason."
I'm going to go out on a limb Frank and say maybe your record coming into the season of 994-1085 has a little to do with it.
Granted it's not horrendous, but it's not exactly a record to get that excited about either.
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Anonymous, at 6/23/2006 10:16 AM
Doesn't sound shocking what with the way Wiki and LeCroy played. How does that ranking compare with the Schnieder/Bennett combo of last year?
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Anonymous, at 6/23/2006 10:18 AM
I think you have to forgive Franks W-L slightly since taking the job with the Expos. He's flawed, sure, but a lack of support from the front office/ownership didn't help the team's chances on the field.
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Anonymous, at 6/23/2006 10:22 AM
Don't forget that Schneider hasn't been that good this year, either.
I can't find a team breakdown, but Schneider only allowed 48 SB last year, 20th in MLB.
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Chris Needham, at 6/23/2006 10:23 AM
Robinson's 15 years as a manager does count. At the beginning of the year he was 54th in all-time wins as a manager. He's been steady - not spectacular:
Cleveland (75-77): 186-189 .496
San Fran. (81-84): 264-277 .488
Baltimore (88-91): 230-285 .447
Mtl-Wash. (02-05): 314-334 .485
I'd certainly promote him to a different position at the end of the year.
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Anonymous, at 6/23/2006 11:12 AM
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