Minding The Store
GM Jim Bowden returns with his weekly column in the Examiner. This week, he discusses the mechanics of the draft, where you can learn that there are 15 chairs, and that the room will be hot. Snore.
But he talked about who'd be in the room, and something caught my eye: Jon Niednagel will advise us on brain imaging.
I've heard mentions of this guy in connection with Bowden, but I didn't realize how accurate they were or that he was playing such a role in the team's decision process. "Brain imaging" sounds scary, like phrenology or some other such nonsense.
So who is this guy and what does he do? His website says that he's able to sort athletes into one of 16 categories, which they can use to rate future success.
He's helpfully assembled a FAQ answering (well, sort of) your questions.
He also has a page of testimonials from a number of successful sports executives like Syd Thrift, Kevin McHale, and Danny Ainge. Also from athletes like Sean Casey, Sammy Sosa, and Kerry Kittles. Who am I to question their success? When Ted Newland, the winningest coach in NCAA Water Polo history says something like, "I’m super turned on to Brain Typing right now," I'm going to stop and listen.
I'm willing to believe that personality is a factor, and that teams should avail themselves of every conceivable data point, but this guy? I dunno.
Did I mention that he does his brain imaging just by sight?
ESPN's Outside the lines did an entire show on his techniques. The skeptics aren't impressed.
Other critics have looked into it:
Bowden apparently discovered him when he was looking help for dealing with his arrogance.
Regardless of the merits of the system, it doesn't seem like it comes cheaply:
On a team that's crying poverty, so much so that they can't call up minor leaguers, is this the right priority?
The Orioles recently fired their personality profiler, Dave Ritterspusch, who, it seems, had a much more prominent role on the team. (Lots of good background on him and his methods here)
I don't know what to make of it. It's certainly interesting that they're looking in all directions. I guess the question is how much influence is it going to have? That's where my skepticism lies.
He has an online test, if you're interested. For what it's worth, it seemed to completely miss the mark with me:
Witty, but not wordy? Reading my droll, overly long crap, do you really believe that? ;)
But he talked about who'd be in the room, and something caught my eye: Jon Niednagel will advise us on brain imaging.
I've heard mentions of this guy in connection with Bowden, but I didn't realize how accurate they were or that he was playing such a role in the team's decision process. "Brain imaging" sounds scary, like phrenology or some other such nonsense.
So who is this guy and what does he do? His website says that he's able to sort athletes into one of 16 categories, which they can use to rate future success.
BTI has recently released new terminology and nomenclature for our Brain Types, distinct from the 8 letters espoused by Jungian enthusiasts. Though we find no fault in Jung’s 8 terms, we believe there is a much more accurate and scientific way to describe man’s inborn skills. Though we have privately used these descriptions for years, we now believe the time is better for sharing some of this information with the public—which is generally disinterested in technical terms. Nonetheless, we believe it is necessary to assist others in going deeper into Brain Types and how the brain directs our various inborn "behaviors".
We believe that Brain Typing is the most accurate methodology for evaluating and describing man’s inborn “normal” behavior—cerebrally and physically. Each of the 16 Brain Types have sub-classifications (which we hold in confidence at this time)—based upon other genetic variables.
He's helpfully assembled a FAQ answering (well, sort of) your questions.
He also has a page of testimonials from a number of successful sports executives like Syd Thrift, Kevin McHale, and Danny Ainge. Also from athletes like Sean Casey, Sammy Sosa, and Kerry Kittles. Who am I to question their success? When Ted Newland, the winningest coach in NCAA Water Polo history says something like, "I’m super turned on to Brain Typing right now," I'm going to stop and listen.
I'm willing to believe that personality is a factor, and that teams should avail themselves of every conceivable data point, but this guy? I dunno.
Did I mention that he does his brain imaging just by sight?
ESPN's Outside the lines did an entire show on his techniques. The skeptics aren't impressed.
SANDBEK- There is no credible evidence that brain typing works.
RINALDI- Clinical psychologist Terry Sandbek, a Ph.D. from Pepperdine with a practice in Davis, California, is skeptical about Niednagel's skills for one reason. No scientific proof.
As far as you can tell, what is brain typing based on?
SANDBEK- Hype and hope.
RINALDI- Nothing more?
SANDBEK- Nothing more.
RINALDI- Nothing scientific.
SANDBEK- No science at all.
RINALDI- In the fields of genetics and brain chemistry, it would seem that a degree, likely an advanced one, in some scientific discipline, would be fundamental.
Yet Jonathan Niednagel's academic credentials end with a B.S. in finance. And his former career was as a commodities trader.
SANDBEK- He's not a scientist because he has no scientific training, he has no scientific publications, and he's not working as a scientist. In fact, he's -- the closest we could get to that would be he's a very credible pseudoscientist.
NIEDNAGEL- I think I'm fairly well versed in terms of the cognitive functions of the brain and how they work; I think I'm fairly well versed in terms of the motor cortex and all the motor skills and so forth. So, in that sense, I do understand some things about the brain and I've read about it for some 20 years and continue to read....
RINALDI- These teams, these coaches, these general manager types, they've been duped.
SANDBEK- Oh, if they think they're going to have a better team, or win more games, or enhance their performances, of course they've been duped. If, indeed, he could do this, he would be the fist person in history, in humanity, to do it, and he'd be the only person to do it, and this is quite a skill. It'd be -- it would be akin to someone saying, I can jump off a cliff, flap my arms and fly through the air.
Other critics have looked into it:
DR. ROLAND CARLSTEDT, PH.D., CHAIRMAN, AMERICAN BOARD OF SPORTS PSYCHOLOGY- Well, as the clinical psychologist said previously, there's no published evidence whatsoever that you can eyeball a person and -- more importantly -- link an appraisal to underlying brain function. Nowadays we use sophisticated methods to localize brain functioning, and the correlations between personality and...Niednagel claims to have never been wrong, when he's been given enough time to observe.
LEY-So there's no basis in science, is what you're saying?
CARLSTEDT- None whatsoever.
CARLSTEDT- Well, first of all, I did my dissertation, which won the American Psychological Association award for best dissertation on behavioral neuroscience and sports psychology. And in doing so, essentially what came out of it is that personality typing -- and that's what it is -- it's not brain typing, it's personality typing based on an antiquated method that Carl Jung developed a century ago that Myers-Briggs further validated through testing -- but then to eyeball athletes and type them and somehow correlate that with brain function is absurd.
And the typing that Jon Niednagel does contains personality elements that have been studied in over 1,000 studies in sports psychology. So, what, are you going to dismiss them? And these studies have essentially shown that personality per se makes up less than 10 percent of the variants in the performance equation. Meaning, if you have 100 factors, less than 10 -- if you accumulated all psychological factors, contribute to performance.
Bowden apparently discovered him when he was looking help for dealing with his arrogance.
“Jim's a thinker,” Mr. Niednagel says. “He's always thinking in terms of strategizing and how can we make this system better. His type is an excellent problem-solver. They love to have a scenario that's almost chaotic to see how can I make sense of it.
“Typically, with that wiring, you'll find a little more potential for conflict ... Thinking is the opposite of feelings.”
Mr. Niednagel has identified 16 basic brain types and says Mr. Bowden's is similar to that of Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, Teddy Roosevelt and computer entrepreneurs Bill Gates and Paul Allen.
Regardless of the merits of the system, it doesn't seem like it comes cheaply:
RINALDI- How much do you get paid by professional teams?
NIEDNAGEL- Some people would say a lot.
RINALDI- Well, what would you say?
NIEDNAGEL- Everything is relative. I'm cheap. Super cheap. For instance...
RINALDI- Define cheap.
NIEDNAGEL- Well, let's just put it -- they will pay me in the six figures.
On a team that's crying poverty, so much so that they can't call up minor leaguers, is this the right priority?
The Orioles recently fired their personality profiler, Dave Ritterspusch, who, it seems, had a much more prominent role on the team. (Lots of good background on him and his methods here)
I don't know what to make of it. It's certainly interesting that they're looking in all directions. I guess the question is how much influence is it going to have? That's where my skepticism lies.
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Witty, but not wordy? Reading my droll, overly long crap, do you really believe that? ;)

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Well, if Danny Ainge is any indication, this is what we have to look forward to. Wheeeeeeee.
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MDT, at 5/24/2006 10:05 AM
Well, who are we to argue with the success of Kevin McHale's Timberwolves either?
And Syd Thrift sure left dynasties in Tampa Bay and Baltimore.
Not to mention The Reds' success with this guy....
And, like I said, when you've got the winningest water polo coach, the Dean Smith of the pool, on your side, the argument's over! Case Closed, man!
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Chris Needham, at 5/24/2006 10:09 AM
So let me get this straight. We're going to pay a guy several hundred thousand dollars to do Myers-Briggs tests?
Jesus, give me a couple hunudred bucks. I'll make the team play Nintendo's Brain Training on the DS, and rank them by their scores for the Nats. That's got to be just as effective.
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El Gran Color Naranja, at 5/24/2006 10:23 AM
Don't badmouth the tests.
They're enhanced personality tests. The guy doesn't even need to use an MRI! HE can tell just by looking, just like my hero John Edward.
Besides, he's got a trademark. And that makes him legitimate.
(Am I the only one wondering what kind of kickback Jim Bowden's getting for this deal?)
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Chris Needham, at 5/24/2006 10:26 AM
Hilarious, in a sad sort of way. I feel so relieved that the Nats farm system is being rebuilt on a solid foundation of pseudoscience. Pitching, pitching, brain tests, toolsy outfielders, and pitching
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nosniv, at 5/24/2006 2:26 PM
This is ridiculous. Everyone knows that the best way to turn around a struggling team is to make sure that they are all Pisces.
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Randolph, at 5/24/2006 2:28 PM
Bowden is similar to Mozart?! What a way to secure the job!
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dan, at 5/24/2006 3:19 PM
The questions in the online test looked like they were lifted from Myers-Briggs. And last time I checked, baseball isn't played on the field with pencil and paper. Let's use some ST (sensing thinking) skills and get some decent scouting reports on how the prospects handle bats, balls and gloves. Check out the make up by how they fit into their current teams--chances are, they'll show similar dispositions if drafted. As far as the BrainTypes(R), does it account for a GM who "done lost his mind"?
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Anonymous, at 5/25/2006 5:49 AM
I just took the brain test and got the same result as you, Chris. Maybe that's why I appreciate your blog so much -- great minds thinking alike! :D
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Rich from Richmond, at 5/25/2006 8:23 AM
The fact that Niednagel jumps from team to team indicates two things:
1. his bogus system is not valuable enough to be retained exclusively and perpetually by teams who have previously contracted him
and
2. Team general managers continue to be clueless when it comes to sport psychology and advanced methods in neuroscience, psychophysiology and psychology that can be reliably used for the purpose of player draft, evaluation and assessment over time in addition to basing a mental training program on.
Niednagel is a charlatan, a snake-oil salesman who has contaminated sport psychology in professional to the extent that it is difficult to make in-roads with legitimate science and methods. ONLY IN AMERICA can a MLM-salesman/Finance major con an entire sports establishment into thinking the holy grail of player evaluation lies in a bogus system that is based on ONE PERSON MERELY EYEBALLING an individual.
GMs and managers talk about the importance of the mental game, yet, they resort to dubious methods and hire unqualified practitioners.
If you are interested visit www.americanboardofsportpsychology.org and locate Terry Sandbek's expose on Jon Niednagel in our Journal page download library. You'll also find out about cutting edge approaches to athlete assessment and interventions and my science-based protocol. You can also read chapter 16 of my book Critical Moments During Competition on the MVN blog under Sport Psychology (see archives).
It is unbelievable that Niednagel is still given the time of day. If he were such a "resource," again, one must ask, why does he continue to bounce from team to team. It's because he nothing of scientific legitimacy to offer and team executives continue to seek a magic potion that does not exist.
Brain Typing is akin to VOODOO sport psychology and has NOTHING to do with brain or neuroscience; it is a concocted system devoid of empirical support.
PLEASE PASS THIS ON TO THE NATIONALS GM who should have his head examined as should any sports executive that buys into this Brain Typing nonsense. Time to adopt what the big-boys in science are doing.
What a joke and even tragedy!
Roland A. Carlstedt, Ph.D.
Clinical and Research Director, Integrative Psychological Services of NYC; Research Fellow in Applied Neuroscience, Brain Resource Company; Chairman, American Board of Sport Psychology; Graduate of the Massachusetts General Hospital/Massachusetts General Hospital/Harvard Medical School joint Visiting Fellowship Program in Functional Magnetic Resonance Imaging (Brain Imaging).
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Roland A. Carlstedt, Ph.D., at 5/26/2006 2:29 PM
Edit of sign-off to Brain Typing comment:
Graduate of the Massachusetts General Hospital/Massachusetts General Hospital/Harvard Medical School joint Visiting Fellowship Program in Functional Magnetic Resonance Imaging (Brain Imaging).
SHOULD READ:
Massachusetts General Hospital/Massachusetts Institute of Technology/Harvard Medical School
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Roland A. Carlstedt, Ph.D., at 5/26/2006 2:37 PM
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